Julie and Torin are serious about destroying the lame, losing and punitive Diversity and Inclusion narrative while chasing a narrative of ambition and freedom to explore. A bi-weekly podcast of talking truth, exploring the uncomfortable, and often ignored. Chasing solution and never hiding from behind lip service. They won’t always get it right, but they will always bring it real. Grab a latte and rock with Crazy and the King – ya heard! #crazyandtheking